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January 25, 2003
The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer: My Life at Rose Red by Joyce Reardon (Editor) and Steven Rimbauer (Afterword)

The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer: My Life at Rose Red by Joyce Reardon (Editor) and Steven Rimbauer (Afterword): kind of a prequel to the Stephen King six hour movie that came on ABC. It wasn’t written by King and I really didn’t find it as interesting as I would have hoped.



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The unused entries of The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer, (edited by Joyce Reardon) because of sexual exploitation(1 april 1917) are said to be found at www.beaumontuniversity.net but none to my knowledge have been found. Any ideas to lead me to these entries would be much appreciated. thank you kindly!!

Posted by: hannah on August 19, 2003 11:25 AM

does anyone realise this and all of rose red are fictional.

Posted by: Carlene on September 11, 2003 08:52 PM

I have yet to find the entries of 1 April 1917 in any of the sites I have opened. If anyone can tell me where they are I would be most greatful. If you've read the book you know that without them it seems like it is missing alot.
Thank you

Posted by: Rhonda on September 14, 2003 10:27 PM

Just so you guys know, this book was actually written by Ridley Pearson. You can find the review for the book at this website http://thebookhaven.homestead.com/Z_Diary_Ellen_Rimbauer.html . I have the book and the DVD and I must say that Ridley Pearson and Stephen King are Marketing and Writing Gods. As far as the missing diary entries... THEY DON'T EXIST B/C THE BOOK AND MOVIE IS ALL FICTION.

Posted by: Mindy on September 14, 2003 11:15 PM

The missing bit of the book is not important, its the recognistion that the paranormal is all around us, and not enough is being invetigated about it! Joyce Reardon, Stephen King, keep up the good work!

Posted by: Sammy on September 23, 2003 05:38 AM

well.. i found the missing entries.

http://www.beaumontuniversity.net/missing.html

Posted by: steffi on October 1, 2003 01:11 AM

MY NAME IS YALANDA GRIFFIN. I HAVE SEEN THE MOVIE AND ALSO READ THE BOOK ON ROSE RED. I BELIEVE THE STORY TO BE VERY TRUE FOR I HAVE TRAVELLED TO SEATTLE AND WITNESSED THE ACTUALLY HOUSE. I'VE NEVER BEEN INSIDE HOWEVER BUT IT IS QUITE BEAUTIFUL. IN THE BOOK IT STATES THEIR ARE PAGES IN ELLEN RIMBAUER'S DIARY THAT ARE QUITE SEXUAL. I AM CURRENTLY TRYING TO FIND THOSE PAGES.IF ANYONE HAS THEM PLEASE CONTACT ME BY WRITNG TO ME AT THIS ADDRESS YALANDA GRIFFIN, 2173 S. 13TH STREET, MILWAUKEE,WI, 53215. THANK YOU

Posted by: on October 12, 2003 04:24 PM

wow!!!!!

Posted by: on October 15, 2003 04:38 PM

were is entery 19 April 1917- Rose red

Posted by: Mandy on October 16, 2003 08:20 AM

i enjoyed the book a lot more than the movie. i appreciate the info on the missing entries Steffie,thanks.and yolanda you lucky girl for getting to see the mansion!!

Posted by: renea on October 18, 2003 07:27 AM

I was very interested to see that Yolanda Griffin has actually seen the house , I too would like to visit it were in seattle is it exactly,and how did you go about finding it?

Posted by: Sandy on October 19, 2003 12:52 PM

As to red rose being a fake,it is not,look up the heir Steven Rimbauer.Also the house is still standing the house it self as been on numerous history shows A&E ect.Always check your facts,however i do believe some things are more ffabricated to sell the story.

Posted by: rebecca on October 20, 2003 06:48 PM

This book is fictitious folks. For those needing further proof, go to http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whoisIf you go to "whois"
Put in beaumontuniversity.net (the .net is a clue) the owner of the site is Walt Disney Hyperion Books. Look on the book at the publisher, also hyperion books. The book was written to support the series, the site was bulit to support the book.

Posted by: Beth on October 21, 2003 11:10 AM

Carlene, you spelled realized wrong. I think there is no Beaumont University, or a Joyce Reardon. I looked for the biography on her,nothing. I looked for more information on the university, also nothing. I wont believe it untill i see it.

Posted by: terry on October 22, 2003 09:30 PM

hello, i have been reading through the postings and i too would like to know where the rose red house is located. i live in seattle and quite frankly a skip and a jump where the house is supposedly located, i have yet to find it. in the book it describes the house to be located on top of spring street, but spring street ends. please help if anyone knows the whereabouts of this house

Posted by: meehee on October 23, 2003 12:32 PM

real or not it sure has kept our attention for some time. I like the suspense of not knowing the truth and letting it go from there.

Posted by: mac on October 25, 2003 10:57 PM

Hey ok i live in Australia and i've never even been to America that alone Seattle. Real or not real the story of Rose Red really excites me it's just different. If anyone knows where Rose Red is if it exists can you please tell me because i'm planning a trip to America really so i can try and find it. So if anyone knows where it is please tell me...because otherwise it'll be a really waste of money going out there. Please write to me on anniez_r_u_ok@hotmail.com

Posted by: Annie on October 26, 2003 09:57 PM

I have seen the movie and am now looking for the book! I believe this story to be real i have not seen the house but would like to! To thoes who dont believe it or say thay havnt seen the house maybe you havnt seen it becuase you dont believe in it! I have read the missing entries, and i believe them to be real, but thats just my opinion!

Posted by: Alana on October 29, 2003 11:03 PM

Does anyone search the internet before they come on here claiming they have seen the Rose Red House or that the diary is real? Well if you take the time to look on the internet you will find that it is all FAKE! The diary is FAKE the movie is FAKE the House is FAKE, it is a set that was built in an airoplane hanger! People who claim they have seen the house may have seen the one they used for the front shots in the movie, it looks very similer to the one in the movie! Everything about ROSE RED is FAKE!

Posted by: Roxy on October 30, 2003 10:37 PM

The house is in Lakewood, Washington. It is Thornewood Castle. You can check out their website and see what they have to offer. They are a Bed and Breakfast Mansion in Washington. Available for the booking :) http://www.thornewoodcastle.com

The Book is Fictious and the story is to make you think. The exerpt from the book are not going to be found because they don't exist, as the story is NOT real.
Enjoy

Posted by: Anna on October 31, 2003 04:17 AM

OK guys...from The Seattle Times...

"...King originally set the story in Los Angeles, but rewrote it for Seattle after filmmakers discovered Thornewood Castle, a Gothic Tudor house in Lakewood near Tacoma.

Thornewood (now a bed-and-breakfast) was spooked up with ivy for exterior shots, while the elaborate interior was constructed in a huge building at the Sand Point Naval Air Station on the shore of Lake Washington.

King placed the fictional Rose Red house at Spring Street and Sixth Avenue near the turn of the century..." and more...

"While the concept for "Rose Red" doesn't sound too far from "The Shining," executive producer Mark Carliner says it was inspired by the 1963 Robert Wise film, "The Haunting" (and Shirley Jackson's book), as well as the Winchester Mystery House in San Jose, Calif. That enormous Victorian mansion was built to the eccentric specifications of superstitious rifle heiress Sarah Winchester in 1884. The structure metastasized with addition after constructed addition until she died 38 years later, and houses bizarre features such as stairways that lead straight into ceilings. "

So- sorry for those of you who were mistaken about it being real- but you guys will find the Winchester House in San Jose really interesting- focus your attention on that mystery- at least it's real!

Posted by: Me on October 31, 2003 06:00 PM

I just visited the castle on Saturday, Nov. 1, 2003 it costs $100 per person to get a tour of the place. Here's the reviews from travelocity.com ...Nestled on four acres at American Lake and dotted with old growth fir trees is Thornewood Castle. Built in 1911 by Chester A. Thorne, this 27,000 square foot manor is of the Gothic Tudor style and is the only one of its kind on the west coast. Built as a single family residence, Thornewood is now a gracious country inn that has been lovingly restored. Stephen King's 'Rose Red' mini series was filmed here, as well as the move 'Dairy of Ellen Rimbauer, My Life at Rose Red'. We have lots of interesting stuff about the movies...

Posted by: S on November 3, 2003 04:52 PM

I just started reading the book and I could barley put it down to check out this web site.I found the pictures and the parts left out of the book I went to Beaumontuniversity.net and the university page came up then I went to programs,and the pictures are there It was not what I was expecting but I guess its better then nothing.

Posted by: sandy on November 3, 2003 08:12 PM

if indeed the red rose book (ellen rimbauer's diary) is a work of fiction then it is an exceptional work of art with outstanding marketing strategy (such imagination and such great minds!). If it is true, then what is behind that mansion? it is sacry enough and interesting enough that I am even posting this message. Any further info from anyone regarding ellen's history please dont fail to contact me. thanks!

Posted by: tj on November 4, 2003 10:06 AM

The book is fiction, the mansion is real and wasn't even finished by the dates in the book. I am looking into the truth about Rimbauers and they look to be a fake also. The secret code that they are decoding is just a fictional take on a sequel.

Posted by: carla on November 11, 2003 12:40 AM

The book is fiction, the mansion is real and wasn't even finished by the dates in the book. I am looking into the truth about Rimbauers and they look to be a fake also. The secret code that they are decoding is just a fictional take on a sequel.

Posted by: on November 11, 2003 12:41 AM

For those of you who have visited the site, take another visit and let me know if you can find ANY information regarding the university, admissions, programs etc., other than that of "Rose Red" (which I must say is lacking in itself). Everything is "under construction," with the exception of the "paranormal" department. Try clicking on the other department and see what happens. There isn't even a contact address or phone number.

As for Joyce Reardon, Ph.D., I could find no other information about her or her other studies. She's an AUTHOR.

Sorry folks. Rose Red makes for a great story and mystery, but there is too great a lack of evidence or history to back this tale up....

Posted by: Steph on November 13, 2003 01:57 PM

Silly me for doing research without first reading the fine print othe the back of the diary....

It says FICTION.

This is a novel written by Stephen King using the name Joyce Reardon.

Posted by: Steph on November 13, 2003 02:05 PM

Hi Here is Lin from Asia, I watch the movie, and I watch the interview of Steve Rimbauer, Dr Joyce Reardon, Stephen King about the Rose Red. The story is true!!!! and the diary is real written by Ellen Rimbauer. And they are still doing research on the house.,.. maybe for those who is staying nearby seattle or in seattle....can pay a visit and go into the house. And Don't just stand there...be adventure!!!

Posted by: Lin Lin on November 15, 2003 02:29 AM

Attn all comment posters: I have checked out the website with the missing sexually exploitive excerpts from the Rose Red diary book (www.beaumontuniversity.net./missing. html), there are 4 pages to be read. So read up.
The Rose Red house still stands to this day, the diary is real, the movie however is fiction. The Rose Red movie is describing what Joyce
Reardons paranormal thesis documentary would have been. This is clearly stated in the book and the movie. So there.

Posted by: zeelou99 on November 16, 2003 04:58 PM

Bravo ! On y croirait.

Nous n'avons pas encore vu la série TV, et le livre vient juste de sortir mais ça fait toujours plaisir de trouver une histoire que l'on ne peut pas laisser avant de l'avoir terminée.

Si ce manoir existe, tant mieux, qu'il fasse travailler les imaginations, le monde en manque cruellement.

Merci donc à de mystérieux Docteur en parapsychologie, mais aussi à Monsieur King qui l'a certainement influencé dans ses recherches...

Souhaitons juste qu'il puisse y avoir une suite.

PS. : moi aussi j'ai trouvé les entrées manquantes, merci Steffi

Posted by: isabelle on November 18, 2003 04:23 AM

I have seen the movie and checked a few things out my self, i know that there are to stories behind it all, one the winchester mansion and 2 the thornwood castle, but however i see some things in the movie... like the never being able to count all the rooms, that is from the winchester mansion. i would like to know if there is any truth to any history of the rimbauer's, or is it all completely made up as well. if u know please email me. those of u who think rose red is real... do a search and type in both of the places i said above and u will see its not.

Posted by: Shiree on November 18, 2003 11:13 AM

How gullible can you people REALLY be?? DO YOUR R-E-S-E-A-R-C-H!!!! The diary is a novel written by Stephen King. It CLEARLY states on the back that it is..... [gasp]....FICTION!!!!

Posted by: Steph on November 18, 2003 12:27 PM

I have found the truth about the rimbauer diary. check this out.
June 25, 2002
Finally we know who wrote the diary! It wasn't King it was Ridley Pearson. Here is what King write's on his site:

Q: Who wrote the diary of Ellen Rimbauer?

Stephen answers:
Now it can be told--the actual author of The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer is suspense novelist (and Rock Bottom Remainder bass guitarist) Ridley Pearson. Ridley did a great job--I couldn't have done better myself. Here's hoping you will continue to support Ridley's work by buying a copy of "The Art of Deception."
24 June 2002

Thanks to everyone that told me about this!
This is the web site I got it from:
http://www.liljas-library.com/diaryrr.html

Posted by: shiree on November 18, 2003 07:40 PM

I have seen the movie and i have the book, but no body realy knows if they are real. There are a lot of people who say its not real and there are people who say it is. There are clues that make us think it could be real and then there are the clues that make us think its not real. As for me i beleave a good part of it . All I know is if there is a house such as rose red i would like to know about it . So if anyone knows anything about the house please e-mail me at REBELFROG1987@AOL.COM
THANK YOU!!

Posted by: liz on November 19, 2003 12:11 AM

thank you shiree !

a new author to read, i'll search in France if we can find some of his books.

to all persons that believe this story, search also in France, every village have a gost or a haunted castle, ask old people and you will find many reasons to fear.

But, as I say to my childs, don't believe all you ear !

Posted by: isabelle on November 23, 2003 07:35 AM

well since so many ppl think it is not true...y dun u all go visit this web.
http://www.beaumontuniversity.net/programs2.html

Posted by: strange on November 26, 2003 02:35 AM

Who is this person to think Rose Red isn't real? Sure the Rose Red story in the movie Rose Red, but the diary is absolutley truthful!

Posted by: Frodo on November 28, 2003 11:50 AM

I'm only 16 years old, but this book is probably going to be one of thee greatest books I'll ever read. Whether or not it is fiction doesn't concern me. Not knowing... makes this book even more intresting.

Posted by: carley on November 29, 2003 03:16 PM

This is the wrong time to laugh, but... hahahaha! LOL. OMG, I believed it too, up until this very last second. I cant believe that King has sent everyone on the longest wild goose chase of our lives. Sadly enough, it worked, b/c the story seemed so complete (with knowlede of Winchester that is) and everything seemed to fit. But all of it is a lie...or is it? I'm writing a paper on haunted houses, let me know if Rose Red is real. Prove it to me!

Posted by: not convinced on December 1, 2003 05:25 PM

i do think it is true,but after reading all these comments i do think it is fictional now but who really knows?

Posted by: lms on December 9, 2003 10:40 AM

I have seen the video "Diary of Ellen Rimbauer" and also Stephen King's "Rose Red" video. I have also read the Diary book and listened to the Diary book on tape. I have then gone to the Beaumont Universiy website..

I am both fascinated and confused. Is any of the Diary based on a real person and a real house, or is it merely a takeoff on Stephen King's "Rose Red"? Please email any responses to: clisa609@aol.com

Thank you!

Posted by: L.Carr on December 16, 2003 11:29 AM

Okay,now Iam confused.Is this a true story or is it just made up? I would really like to know. Is there really a mansion?

Posted by: Felicia on December 18, 2003 09:56 AM

I really enjoyed reading this book, it has kept my attention the whole time although I do believe that parts should not have been taken out just because of its content. I hope that another book is released the way it was originally written. I agree greatly with Hannah, I have not found the entries of April1, 1917 and would also greatly appreciate any information on them and how I would get to them to read. thank you for your time.

Posted by: Toshia on December 18, 2003 08:59 PM

Good book, that diary was. It had be believing, until I hit the web. Well, it ALMOST had be believing. Theres a point in the diary where Ellen uses the word 'kidding'. That sorta killed it for me right then and there.
The web finished up the deed, showing me that it was all FAKE.
However. A really good book, very well-crafted.
And to people looking for the missing entries: scroll up and read what everyone else has posted!!! Someone posted the url already, so stop asking for it!

Posted by: jenny on December 23, 2003 11:11 AM

I am totally looking forward to reading this book, just because it all seems so real until you get into the fine print and find out that it's fiction. I want to find more things like this that are real, so if anyone gets some more info, e-mail me at topperhat@SPAMFREEsofthome.net

Posted by: Topper on December 23, 2003 03:38 PM

I would just like to say I am an advid steven king fan and watched the dvd before reading the book the diary if you will notice it says fiction on the back this means its not real it is however a very cleaver way to sell books and cause a bit of mystry and rake in the doe i take my hat of to Ridly Pearson you are a very cleaver man i have looked into all posabilitys the area the doctor the woman whos diary this is Ellen and the universaty it is all fictihos so enjoy the book but get a life its not real but cleaverly done

Posted by: Hazel on December 30, 2003 10:58 AM

AT FIRST I THOUGHT THE STORY HAD SOME TRUTH TO IT BUT AS I AM SEARCHING FOR MORE ANSWERS IT WAS A PLOY BY PUBLISHERS AND WRITERS ALONE TO SELL ALOT OF BOOKS AND OTHER MERCHANDISE.

Posted by: ANNETTE on December 30, 2003 12:08 PM

IF YOU NEED ANY MORE PROOF THAT THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN A HOAX , USE KEYWORD RIMBAUER HOAX, READ THIS AND MAKE YOUR OWN CONCLUSION.

Posted by: ANNETTE on December 30, 2003 01:12 PM

Hello, remember " The BLAIR WITCH" people believed that too! even after one of the actors stated that before he got the part he was on his last box of mac & cheese. I too, fell for it and tried to research it. but please.... if this was real don't you think they would have put this on the Discovry Channel by now. Hey the book was fantastic. Now I'll be searching my local video store for the movie.

Posted by: pam on December 31, 2003 01:52 AM

It is all fake...Joyce Reardon is actually some dude named PEARSON. He made the whole thing up the sneaky bastard!
Bravo, I must say. The book actually scared me! Good work!

Posted by: Sarah on January 6, 2004 12:45 AM

I enjoyed the book, but upset to find the excerpts are not as touted in the book. they are at this site... http://www.beaumontuniversity.net/missing.html
The pictures, etc, tend to lead you to think it is a real diary, but it IS a book of fiction.

Posted by: Barbara on January 6, 2004 11:22 AM

Look up the Thornewood Castle online and you will see the exact home used in the book. Thornewood is actually in Tacome WA and was used for the filming of Rose Red.

Posted by: Barbara on January 6, 2004 11:51 AM

I do believe that the story of the rimbauer true, however i think that it was the ranting lonely and crazy woman.

Posted by: lorraine on January 7, 2004 06:10 PM

the unused entries are indeed on the website, you just have to surf around on & click on one od the links.

Posted by: Fest on January 11, 2004 06:15 AM

yes some of the missing excerpts we on the beaumontuniversity site. but there is still pages from april 2 1917 - march 8 1918 that are not published. if you read the section of the book editors notes it says that a few excerpts were unavalible because of sexual content. it also says to find the URL (exactly as it is written) at the university site. so to those of you who think you have found the missing pages your WRONG!!!!!
there is more. by the way i beleive it is very real!!!

Posted by: glory on January 11, 2004 01:09 PM

I believe that Reardon put a few select excerpts on the website, but excluded many of them for the privacy of Ellen Rimbauer... so I suppose what is there is there after the initial 5 pages of diary summaries... I absolutly LOVED this book...

Posted by: carrie on January 12, 2004 06:13 PM

If you don't think its real and you have a problem with the people who do, get the he** off the page and let us(believers) discuss what we think. Heres an idea, make up your own page that talks about how its all fake and how were stupid and leave us alone. Its people like you who ruin the imagination and creativity of others beliefs and thoughts.

Posted by: natalie on January 13, 2004 11:32 AM

some extra entries not found at the site listed on the book can be found at---

www.beaumontuniversity.net/missing.html

Not what I thought but still helped keep the intrigue going

Posted by: gail on January 14, 2004 05:22 PM

check this out too

www.vjbooks.com/interviews/pearson_ridley_interviews2.htm

sorry it wouldn't fit on on one line...type it all together--- Dang I loved this book!!! Who cares that it is fake? I couldn't put it down!!

Posted by: gail on January 14, 2004 09:30 PM

I love the movie Rose Red! I watch it all the time! If I had the chance to go to Rose Red I would take it in a heart beat! It's in my dreams to be there. One day I will go. If only I knew exactly where to go.E-mail me if you can help.Hooter_s26@hotmail.com

Posted by: Jennifer Jensen on January 15, 2004 10:58 AM

Hello, i am 17 years old and i just want to say that you people are being fooled, i will admit that i was fooled as well, until i did the research. My bf even did research with me. The name Joyce Reardon is a pen name, and Rose red isnt there. The photos, those are from the mansion that they shot the film in, known as thornwood castle. It is a good book and movie, I love them both and will probably read the book and watch the movie a thousand times.
For those of you who believe so strongly that this is real, its not, go try to find it in Seattle, and when you are dissappointed that its not there you will see that we were right and that you were wrong. Im sorry, its a very good book, but its not real! Research it and you will see the truth.

Posted by: Courtney on January 17, 2004 05:15 PM

I also checked several homepages and sites concerning the history of Rose Red Manor in Seattle, but there is no house named like this in Spring Street. The book intrigued me, and offcourse i went to see the www.beaumontuniversity.net., but i searched the entire internet and i must admit that Steven King has been bullshitting us!! There is no Dr. Joyce Reardon. The local Seattle history site, wrote clearly that the book is fiction as well as the house. This means that the books is written very well, well enough to make us want to believe that the story is true!! Sweet dreams........

Posted by: Dr. Joyce Reardon on January 22, 2004 09:35 AM

Thornewood Castle, in Lakewood, Pierce County


Although Thornewood is not in King County, there are many who believe that it is, due to its “starring role” as the mansion in Stephen King’s Rose Red, a made-for-television movie set in Seattle, which debuted on ABC-TV on January 27, 28, and 31, 2002. Thornewood Castle is actually located in the community of Lakewood, southwest of Tacoma on the shores of American Lake in Pierce County. The mansion was built by Chester Thorne (1863-1927), one of the founders of the Port of Tacoma, and the first president of National Bank of Tacoma (later National Bank of Washington). Currently (2002) Thornewood Castle is a private bed-and-breakfast, and may be visited only by appointment or reservation. King fans please note that the Rimbauer family, Joyce Reardon, and the Rose Red mansion are completely fictional and have no basis in actual Seattle history - http://www.historylink.org/

Best regards Dr. Joyce Reardon x

Posted by: Dr. Joyce Reardon on January 22, 2004 09:57 AM

Does anyone know of url link for the 1 april 1917(not http://www.beaumontuniversity.net/missing.html have already seen that)

Posted by: on January 25, 2004 04:26 AM

i read the book, watched the movie, and saw the special about the house on the history channel i think its real and i think it was a great book but i would really like to read the missing entrys anyone know where to find them.

Posted by: melisa on February 2, 2004 12:39 AM

anyone who does find the missing entries from 1-2-1917-3/1918 please email me at iris_martinez5@yahoo.com

thanks

Posted by: on February 2, 2004 09:16 AM

I bought the book this afternoon second-hand for 99p. I thought it would be fascinating to read someone's secret intimate diary. When I got it home and had a closer look it seemed suspiciously well-written and slick. A little web-surfing revealed the truth, and my copy does have "Fiction" in tiny letters on the back near the price as someone has pointed out. I don't like reading fiction, so I've wasted 99p. B*gger.

Posted by: Fred on February 17, 2004 11:27 AM

rose red is real!

Posted by: shelby on February 19, 2004 09:12 AM

rose red is real!

Posted by: on February 19, 2004 09:13 AM

I thought it was real too and i went to the bookstore after buying the "fictional" diary then ordered what was supposed to be the "non-fictional" diary because it had a different cover BUT I looked closer and the same damn names were on it as authors.and I will be cancelling that order tomorrow. I have researched all over the web and none of these people can be found just like the actress that supposedly came up missing in rose red someone mentioned earlier to look up steven rimbauer to prove its true and I did and NOTHING! This is such a scam like the blair witch project. and to the person who said they actually saw the house, pictures?? surely you would have pictures of such a grand landmark and those that say they saw the crap on the discovery channel thats such BS! Im so pissed that we are suckered into falling for this crap. RESEARCH PEOPLE ITS ALLLLLLL A FAT LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you have proof like PICTURES of rosered then email me otherwise get a clue!

Posted by: angela on February 21, 2004 03:37 AM

I can't belive that there are still people who belive the book to be factual. Look at the beaumont site-all links lead to the same place. Look in the Seattle phone book, the is not Beaumony university.

Posted by: Beth on February 25, 2004 03:22 PM

Read the book carefully, my bf bought it for me 2 years ago for my birthday, because he knows I am a HUGE King fan, and he had already heard it was a hoax... by S. King. If you read it carefully, somewhere in the pages(sorry I can't remember what page, it's been a long while since I read it) it actually makes a reference to a King book, but you wouldn't know that's what it is unless you're an avid King reader. Sorry to you believers, I loved the book though, and I'm still going to check out those sights with the missing entries, just because I don't feel like the book was complete without them.

Posted by: KerryBeth on February 29, 2004 01:44 PM

To Beth: There is a Beaumont University!!!
You havent even got the name right!
Its Beaumont university not Beaumony

Posted by: Christen on March 1, 2004 10:15 AM

rose red is real

Posted by: Branden on March 2, 2004 07:22 PM

wow, i had a good laugh after reading everyone's comments. I just thought that there would be additional pages to the story on the web, so I went looking. I'm a little sad knowing that four pages was all there was. It was too good of a book to finish. Hope you all had as much fun reading it as I did!!!

Posted by: Lisa on March 6, 2004 07:49 PM

I have read the book and seen the movie. I have also seen the movie "The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer" and that movie was really disapointing. So Much was left out and if you watch that movie and then rose red everything is different. There are only a few similarities. The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer should have been as long as Rose Red and so much more needs to be added.

Posted by: Maria on March 7, 2004 04:58 PM

Good Grief, get a grip! The book is fiction. Stephen King did a great job, don't you think? As for the missing entries...they aren't that explicit (at least not to anyone who has seen "Sex and the City" or "Queer as Folk").

Posted by: SHARI on March 12, 2004 12:58 AM

I love the movie and I am reading the book now. I would love to go to the bed and breakfast just to be able to see the house. For a day or so I was thinking what if it was real what could of really happened to those missing people? Someone in the house was killing them and getting rid if the bodies (if it were real) but it is not.

Posted by: Jennifer on March 15, 2004 09:39 PM

WENT LOOKING FOR MORE TO THE STORY. SAD TO SAY COULD NOT FIND MORE. bUT WHAT A GREAT STORY IT WAS. i THOUGHT THE BOOK WAS MUCH BETTER THAN THE MOVIE.

Posted by: on March 17, 2004 02:17 PM

I believe rose red is not a real place but the actual events are real along with the people. Altought I couldn't put the book down it felt like it sucked me in, I managed to read the book in 2 days. I went on the web site given in the book and still havent found the missing pages which is very dissappointing I also couldn't find the diary of tina coleman.

Posted by: Lisa on March 18, 2004 05:48 PM

I,for starters, believe that the whole story is true. I just saw the movie "The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer" and I thought it was very good. There really is a Joyce Reardon and a Steven Rimbauer. Stephen King just did the movie about it. It doesnt mean its fake or a hoax. To all the non-believers, I dont care if you believe or not, Im gonna believe what I want to. NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE MY MIND. I THINK ROSE RED IS REAL. THANK YOU!!!!

Posted by: Deidre on March 23, 2004 02:04 PM

I can not believe that as recently as 2 days prior to this post and more than 2 years after the book was published, there are still people gullible enough to believe this story is real. I had my suspicions from very early on just by the rather corny mention of some historical events (such as the invention of the radio or a new pope). But what really firmed by skeptism was a paragraph in the publishing notes: "All characters in this publication are fictitious and any resemblance to real persons, LIVING OR DEAD, is purely coincidental."
The copy I read was printed in Australia by Griffin Press, maybe this paragraph was not printed on publications printed in other countries.
And to all you people looking for the missing pages of sexually explicit material; YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF PERVERTS! If you want to know what went on go to www.booble.com and search on "threesome" I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for :-)

Posted by: Skeptic from the start on March 24, 2004 09:18 PM

And I would have got away with it too. If it wasn't for those meddling kids.

Scooby Dooby Doooooo!

Posted by: Stephen King on March 24, 2004 09:24 PM

Check out this website, you will find that the book is just fiction. http://www.ridleypearson.com/ellen.html
I have spent several hours tring to find out who is right and wrong. The only real "Rose Red" is a Tea manufacture in Canada. Sorry to pop your balloons, but this is really just a book written by a man with an awesome imenigation.

Posted by: kim on March 25, 2004 11:26 AM

I am from Poland so my English isnt very good.
I thing thet rose red is very good book. I like horrors and that one is fantastic. But it is true ? red rose is really ?. i dont know but I bealive ...
I hope that some day I go to the seattle. ...and see Red Rose...this house is so scary.....but I like i T :)

Posted by: edyta on March 26, 2004 07:28 AM

I myself have had many numerous experiences with the paranormal. Beginning with my 1st experience at the young age of just eight years old. This book written by a one '' Joyce Reardon" or not was a VERY EXCELLENT WORK OF LITERATURE!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: pricilla on March 28, 2004 10:34 PM

I'm so confused!!! I wish someone could just prove if it is real or not!! I think I wanted to believe it was real, but I'm getting the sense that it was a hoax!!!

Posted by: Jen on March 30, 2004 04:16 PM

Okay, I will clear it all up. There is no Red Rose. The family is made up for the fictional story. The movie (filmed as a miniseries) was written by Steven King. It was filmed on sets on in Thornwood Castle. The book was written by Ridley Pearson to act as a prequel. In fact, the book is a supplement, King asked Pearson to write it. Here's the Diary on Pearson's website:

http://www.ridleypearson.com/ellen_novel_reviews.html

Thornwood Castle is a B&B. Check out its website

http://www.thornewoodcastle.com/index.htm

which includes a page about the movie Rose Red being shot there:

http://www.thornewoodcastle.com/movie.htm

The "website" mentioned in the book is beaumontuniversity.net. This is in itself a clue that it's all fake. A university website would have a URL ending in .edu (education). This is a fake university, not misspelled. The reason that the website is so lacking is because it's set up soley for the book. There are no real classes, departments, or other university things on the site. It is just to make the hoax seem more real.

Hope I cleared it up for everyone.

PS. Stop asking what the URL is for the missing pages. It's

beaumontuniversity.net/missing.html

and if you just take the time to scroll up and read previous entries, you'll see that several people posted it.

Posted by: Kat on April 1, 2004 04:51 PM

Beaumont University is real....it has its own website apart from the fact that Ellen Rimbauer is on the faculty there.

Posted by: SAVANNAH on April 2, 2004 08:56 PM

i wonder since the last ppl whent in to the house to evaluate the house what happen and how u could find out about it. i haven't heard the lateset thing on ellen rimbauer and her house.
thanks,
mjg

Posted by: mary on April 3, 2004 12:40 PM

Not really sure why everyone is making such a big deal about this. It was a good book and I have yet to see the movie. True story or not it is a good story so let your imagination work and get over it, if it is fake or not.

Posted by: Hol on April 6, 2004 02:02 PM

OK ppl. I loved Rose Red. I really believed the interviews and documentaries. I watched this movie over and over. Last night I decided after watching it again, to research Rose Red and the Rimbauers. I stumbled on this site. I could not believe that everyone said it was all a fake. I actually became upset. So I went on the web on my own. I am sorry to say I was had. It is all a fake. The author of the Diary is really Ridley Pearson. Visit www.theflagship.net for info on the Diary. It says contributors and authors are Ridley(actual author), as well as Reardon, Ellen and Steve Rimbauer all listed as fictional authors. The book is even for sale under his name. Another site, www.historylink.org/results.cfm?keyword=rose+red, and you will find the history page from Seattle/King counties that says all characters from the movie are fictional and that Rose Red does not exsist. On the University page, look on the bottom right and is says Copywrite Hyperion 2001. The University does not exsist either. This is who the domain is registered to.
Registrant:
Walt Disney Hyperion Books (BEAUMONTUNIVERSITY-DOM)
500 S. Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521
US

Domain Name: BEAUMONTUNIVERSITY.NET

I am sorry, I wanted to believe it too. But it is not real. I was just like others, just let me belive it and leave me alone with my fascination. But, curiosity killed the cat!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Christi on April 9, 2004 10:58 PM

does anyone know how mtch the diary of ellen rimbaur has made in dvd and vhs . The other thing does anyone know how many people saw the movie on it's opening night. last the amount the movie made on it's premier on abc? please any help is good i really need this for a project

Posted by: Branden on April 10, 2004 03:52 PM

First off, to get off the subject of RoseRed and talk about a comment my cousin and I read on here about the "Blair Witch" i was fooled too. I watched the movie and thought that it was an actual tape. No the actors are not real but the story DAMN sure is! try to get on a website about and see what happens! Back to the story at hand, we aren't sure if it is true or not but people say that the house still exists. We don't care what you sceptics think. RoseRed is real!

Posted by: Janette on April 15, 2004 05:02 PM

AFTER READING COMMENTS I WILL NOT EVEN LOOK FOR MISSING PAGES. IAM NOT SURE WHAT TO BELIVE?IN THIS WORLD WHAT CAN WE REALLY BELIVE?EVEN IF WE SEE IT WITH OUR OWN EYES DO WE STILL NOT QUESTAION?????????????????? PEACE CC

Posted by: CCRYDER10 on April 17, 2004 10:50 PM

Has anyone even tried to look up some of these sites listed here? I looked them up as I read them. They don't exist either. Rose Red?? Real or not ?? Who really cares as long as your beliefs make you happy. The important thing is that we are reading & learning,what ever the learning is, such as how far fetched some things are!!! I for one loved the book & I'm not really a King fan. I did find Thornewood Castle on the web. Beautiful!! Our son lives in Tacoma. It is really there!

Posted by: Sue on April 20, 2004 08:55 AM

There seems to still be some confustion, so I'm reposting my April 1st post:
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Okay, I will clear it all up. There is no Red Rose. The family is made up for the fictional story. The movie (filmed as a miniseries) was written by Steven King. It was filmed on sets on in Thornwood Castle. The book was written by Ridley Pearson to act as a prequel. In fact, the book is a supplement, King asked Pearson to write it. Here's the Diary on Pearson's website:
http://www.ridleypearson.com/ellen_novel_reviews.html

Thornwood Castle is a B&B. Check out its website
http://www.thornewoodcastle.com/index.htm
which includes a page about the movie Rose Red being shot there:
http://www.thornewoodcastle.com/movie.htm

The "website" mentioned in the book is www.beaumontuniversity.net. This is in itself a clue that it's all fake. A real university website would have a URL ending in .edu (education). This is a fake university, not misspelled. The reason that the website is "under construction" is because it's set up soley for the book. The only part of the site they filled in was the section pertaining to the book. There are no real classes, departments, or other university things on the site. It is just to make the hoax seem more real.

Hope I cleared it up for everyone.

PS. Stop asking what the URL is for the missing pages. It's
http://www.beaumontuniversity.net//missing.html
and if you just take the time to scroll up and read previous entries, you'll see that several people posted it.
-----
With that out of the way, let me reiterate. There is no Rose Red house, anywhere. It is a fictional house. When they filmed the movie, they used Thorndike Castle. The pictures in the book are faked. The website is just another part of this elaborate hoax. There will not be another movie on what happened when other people went to Red Rose because it doesn't exist.

For those of you who say the book is great, you love King, he didn't write the book! He contract it out to another author, Ridley Pearson. Also, one can't say how much of the book made it to the movie, because the was written first (by King) and THEN he went to Pearson and asked him to write the story of Ellen.

For those of you who want to enjoy the fantasy, please ignore this post. For those of you who are trying to figure out the truth, trust me, it's a hoax. A very elaborate one, but a hoax.

Posted by: on April 23, 2004 04:32 AM

Here are some web addresses for those of you who have expressed interest in reading on TRUE paranormal stuff. http://www.paranormal.org/link/
http://www.paraseek.com/

Posted by: Kyra on April 25, 2004 12:51 PM

I have seen the movie, "Rose Red" and have wanted to research the fame of the horrific mansion, and the victim, Ellen Rimbauer. She had caught my interest the day I sat to watch the movie. I only wish I could find a site that had her diary open for anyone to read. I will one day read and understand the pain of Miss Ellen.

Posted by: Heather on April 26, 2004 11:02 AM

hay dis book is fuccing real...wanna bet i went to see dat house in seattle on mah own ehn it sho is realz.!!!!wanna bet go to seatle and see it foe yurself!!!

Posted by: beyblaoguh on April 27, 2004 07:56 PM

hay if dis isn't a real stor den explain da pictures....explain their grandson...Steven Rimbauer seems real to meeh if u dont believe it den fuccc yoooh!! cuz ish realll

Posted by: beyblaoguh on April 27, 2004 08:01 PM

The pictures could have been bought from stock photographers anywhere in the world. Hey, they could even have been searched off of Google. It's called TECHNOLOGY people. And it's easy enough to make up a person like Steven Rimbauer. Hey, I could be Steven Rimbauer for all you guys know. And hello. There is no "ROSE RED" in Seattle. As someone said earlier, Spring St. ENDS and that is THAT!

ugh. Stupid people bug me.

Posted by: Steve on April 30, 2004 01:04 AM

This story was very interesting... very fictional. It is great stimulation for one's mind. And if it weren't for these sincerely naive people, the world wouldn't be so colorful. It was intended for some to believe the writings of KING and PEASRSON. That is a writers goal... To make the reader 'fall into the book', so to speak. To make the reader get "sucked in". Both men did a very good job of doing just that. But don't get carried away folks... Have fun with it. Believe it till the story's end. But only to the story's end.

Posted by: amanda on May 17, 2004 02:36 PM

You guys. Let me clear this up with a quickness. Wow, where do I start. Frist off Rose Red in my opinion is the best scary to ever grace the big screen and that is becasue it is all fictional, but the fact that it is a diary makes it seem so realistic. As I speak right now, I an just getting to the end of the book. It really does seem real. One of the reasons that I thought to watch the movie and read the book is because I am from SEATTLE people. Sorry to pop your balloons or spoil your vacations to Seattle, but if you come up here searching for Rose Red, you're going to be in for a waste of rental car miles and muddy shoes, becuz it's not real. Any diary you hear of seems to be real becasue it's a diary. I agree with someone earlier who said that if it was, someone other than Stephen King, the greatest fictional horror writer ever, would have brought it up. Of course it's believable. A visit to the Haunted Mansion in Disney World would scare you more, becasue at least it exists. Visit Auschwitz to follow up on a real diary. Stephen King, great job. You've got so many people fooled. Don't be fooled. Go to Seattle to see the SeaHawks, not to find Rose Red. Sorry, HOAX!

Posted by: shani on May 19, 2004 06:08 AM

I just wanna say i'm about to read the book, i've already seen the movie and I LOVE IT. I don't care what every one say's, i can't wait to read the book and i just wanted to say HI to everyone. Is there anyone else here from australia, Perth? if so drop me an email (jnardi_18@hotmail.com).............................................Hope to hear from you.

Cheers and Beers
Jayde

Posted by: Jayde on May 20, 2004 08:55 PM

i just wanna say...all "nonbelievers" are f*cking stupid...why not just let ppl believe what they want.....its their problem what they think NOT YOURS...mind ya own business!....

Posted by: Tiffy on May 28, 2004 12:49 AM

oh i personally found all of this interesting....if anyone has anymore info on the diary...please let me kno at tiffy_leann@hotmail.com...thank you much!

Posted by: Tiffy on May 28, 2004 12:51 AM

i loved the book. who cares if it is real

Posted by: denise on June 4, 2004 08:51 PM

Rose Red is based off an actual place. But it's not where the dairy says it is and it's not called Rose Red. It was built by a woman who was marrried to a man who made guns(i think it's Wilson). She believed that the people that were killed by the guns came back to haunt her. She thought they told her to build a house and not to ever stop adding on to it. People refer to it as a house built for ghost by ghost. It's mentioned in a book about haunted places in the U.S. I think it said it was in CA.

Posted by: Cara on June 6, 2004 07:37 PM

I want to tell everyone, that this movie and book are completely fictional. However, it is very well done. Stephen King is a superb story teller. I adore his writting and movie making, he is the master! Bravo! Mr. King really knows how to capture ones curiousity in the paranormal. He brings to life fictional characters to the point where we WANT to believe. That is what it is all about to him. Everyone will remember Rose Red as the all time ghost story and that is what Mr. King wanted. My children love this movie, they understand that it is fictional and it intrigues their curiousity in the paranormal. We own MANY Stephen King movies (because we are all huge fans) and they love them all. I think that when Stephen King does a movie he really thinks about what his audience wants... and he gives them that and we expect no less then a master piece... which he never falls short of... Thank you Mr. King for entertaining all of us. :) Most Sincerely, Jennie

Posted by: Jennie on June 17, 2004 09:51 PM

I found this today.

http://www.vjbooks.com/interviews/pearson_ridley_interview2.htm

Q: In one of the "editor's notes" (page 221), you make a specific reference to April 1, 1917. You also mention that this journal entry--along with others--could be found on the "WWW.BEAUMONTUNIVERSITY.NET" and that users must type the URL "exactly as it is written" because there is "no 'link' to these [missing] excerpts from any of the web-published pages."

Although many of the readers were able to find the link to some "missing excerpts" on the bottom of the Beaumont site's 5th diary excerpt page, there seems to be no entry for 1 April, 1917 anywhere on the site. Is this just an April Fool's joke (April 1st) or just an oversight?

RIDLEY PEARSON: April fool's joke. Yes. [Interviewer's Note: Deliciously wicked!]

Posted by: me and myself on June 22, 2004 03:28 PM

Whether or not the book is real is immaterial- it is simply a good read. Oh, and Tiffy- You need to relax!

Posted by: June on July 11, 2004 08:59 AM

Erm....I hate to point it out to believers...but how can it be real when the woman in the so called 'original pictures' supposedly taken at the turn of the century of Ellen, both in the book and shown in the so called 'documentary' of Rose Red, is in fact the contemporary actress that plays her in the mini-series Rose Red?

Hoax.

Posted by: K on July 12, 2004 08:22 PM

I just want to say that the story is true and that some of you doubters really need to learn how to spell because that makes you look even more stupid. You are claiming that it is not real but you either have no education or poor typing ability and abviously don't read very well

Posted by: on July 19, 2004 08:46 PM

Well, I write here after a shocking revelation that the whole thing really truly is a fake. I checked out the suggested websites from above, the one for Ridley Pearson and the one for Thornewood Castle. I was not convinced after I saw Thornewood Castle, I was convinced after seeing the website on Ridley Pearson and thoroughly checking it out. I can't believe that its not true!! What a terrific writer!!

Posted by: on July 19, 2004 09:20 PM

I think all of you all are fools who dont want to believe that there are things in this world that cannot be explained. If you "research" you will find many web sites with text reviewing this case but You must know how to read!!!!!

Posted by: Dean on July 25, 2004 04:48 PM

Guys...go to the link it tells you to in the book...www.beaumontuniversity.net. the guy that was talking had a very good point when he said universitys web site addresses have edu not net...also if you go to any other subject like biology or chemistry it takes you directly to the rose red page, coincidently all other pages like housing and admissions are under construction with the approaching school year these parts of the web page would be finished. I mean 3 out of the 4 programs are conducted by joyce reardon and all of them have to do with paranormal studies. In a real college there is going to be much more information on programs in various areas. I really want to believe its TRUE because that would be solid..but most evidence is contradicting that belief of it existing and so i gotta say its all FAKE. I mean the book does say it is fiction...whoever wrote this has written a masterpeice that has enthralled all readers alike

Posted by: Dani on July 28, 2004 10:41 AM

Sarah Winchester, of the Winchester mansion in San Jose, Calif. was told that as long as she kept building her mansion, the spirits of the dead who were killed by her husband's rifles (the Winchester) would leave her alone.

She built until she died.

http://www.winchestermysteryhouse.com

This story is a take off of that. And there is nothing real about Rose Red. It's a bed and breakfast and a pretty house, but the story is a story. No joyce, no stephen, no ellen.

Posted by: Jan on August 8, 2004 01:33 PM

What is the force in humans that causes us to strive to understand something that otherwise would be left alone.
The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer, My Life at Rose Red is excellent. If this book is true, us as humans, and children of a divine power, should not be awed by this book, but greatly saddened that something like this could ever befall upon a person. This book is full a suffering and explicit evil. And although it’s very interesting there’s a certain aura about it that just fills overbearing. If this book is false, then we should be thinking about what came upon this author for him/her to write something this profound. What demons are hiding in his closet? What evil has surrounded him? Were is our compassion? What evil enveloped us to call this book a wonderful work of art?

Posted by: Genesis on August 9, 2004 02:08 AM

It's a book. A good book. But a work of fiction.

The author isn't necessarily plagued by anything. He's a bloody good writer, like Stephen King.

It's not something to be taken seriously. It's a good yarn, woven with a good writer's pen.

A WORK OF FICTION

Posted by: Jan on August 10, 2004 07:38 AM

Duhuh
I was so gullible in the beggining for believing that the story was true. Its after much searching on different search engines and coming upon this website i relaize that its not real. any way its and excellent book the writer is superb.

Trying searching in all the best search engines and u won't find any link that leads to ellen, rose red or rimbauer.
try readin the previous excerpts they enlighten.

Posted by: Angel on August 22, 2004 08:56 PM

SOMETHING TOLD ME SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT WITHIN THE FIRST 6 PAGES SO I LOOKED IT UP ON THE WEB. MY FORTHOUGHTS WERE RIGHT HAVE TO BE HONEST I HAVE HAD THE BOOK FOR A WHILE BUT WAS SCARED TO READ IT BECAUSE I DID THINK IT WAS TRUE. SILLY ME I COULD HAVE JUST LOOKED AT THE BACK WHERE IT SAYS FICTION.
HATS OFF TO YOU STEPHEN KING IM SURE EDGAR ALLEN POE IS SMILING DOWN AT YOU FOR YOUR GREAT BRILLIANCE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
IM IN GERMANY MISSING THE STATES AND THIS IS THE BEST FUN I HAD SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE
TRACY FARROW

Posted by: tracy on September 2, 2004 12:42 PM

Regretfully, the story is fake...

I took the "claimed" Rose Red, 1999 at night picture from the beaumontuniversity.net site into my graphics program and made it larger, and the Gardenside/Entrance photo from the Thornewood Castle Inn site, and compared the two.

The two buildings are identical except for a tower added to the top of the Rose Red building..... Amazing what computers can add to an image these days...
but the windows, door, chimney stacks are all identical.... even the fountain in the front is the same...sorry folks

but hey....gotta love a good book!!

Posted by: Michelle on September 12, 2004 10:46 PM

i have new info about the missing diary entries. if u go to Rimbauer Hoax on AOL keywords and go down to Diary 4 it'll take u to the Beaumont University sight and u'll see that there r 5 pages instead of 4 like there is supposed to be. i believe this story completely no doubt in my mind if someone can prove to me that its real or fake please e-mail me at KiKihot3@aol.com. its completely true and for u non-believers please stop sayin were stupid for believin. i dont believe everything i hear or read but in the case of Rose Red i do because i believe in paranormal activity and i think this could happen at anytime and anyplace. maybe even to u so just screw urself and think about that!!!

Posted by: Crissie on October 13, 2004 03:42 PM

ok this is just to set the record straight for everyone out there. Rose Red the actual mansion is fictional. However it is baised upon a true story. The story of Sarah Winchester. That is the house that Yalanda most likely visited. If you do not belive me search for Sarah Winchester and her Mystery house you will find all you need there. Also when visiting sites on Sarah Winchester i have found that Ridely Pearson is the actual writer of The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer and he was writing under the name of Joyce Rearden to make the story seem true. Steven Rimbauer is also a fictional character, he does not exsist that person that was found is just an actor. I love the movie and the book don't get me wrong they are singley the best things i have ever watched/read but i figured that the stroy needed to be set straight and Sarah Winchester's name needs to be reconized

Posted by: Sarah-anne on October 30, 2004 12:24 PM

Well, Stephen King sure did a good job fooling me. but... i found the "FICTION" on the back of the book. I wont tell if you wont. hahaha.

Posted by: Cindy on November 5, 2004 12:13 AM

Steven King is a literary geinus laughing his ass off all the way to the bank. I loved the movies,the "Tv documentory" I've read and reread Ellens
diary" the whole thing. Too bad it is'nt true. I think all of us fans were so captivated by the whole story we wanted to believe it. But hey thats what the writers wanted to happen. Rock on Mr. King!!!

Posted by: Tiff on November 8, 2004 02:22 AM

Though the Diary of Ellen Rimbauer is a very good lie thast exactly what it is. The book was not that of a diary by a sexually abused young woman at the peak of her sexuality. It was that of a young woman marrying a man she believed to of loved and how he betrayed her and the pride within herself most cruelly. The cruelty with which he treated his wife in my opinion was degrading to woman in general but yet it was still interesting. I myself must say i stayed up late at night to read the book and loved it. But it is all fiction the diary is not that of a diary at all it is a fictional book written by Ridley Pearson. As for the diary enteries that were taken out for the sexual content there aren't any. I must congradulate the author for writing such a good book and the lessons it teaches us about the unknown paranormal that is all around us. It teaches a good lesson also if u read between the lines as people would describe it. I believe there may have been some sort of diary by Ellen Rimbauer but i only believe that the author got a few ideas from it and not that the whole thing is of her and the life she lived. IF you chose to give an opinion you can reach me at lynnbaby04073@yahoo.com@msn.com

Posted by: LYNN on November 9, 2004 04:30 PM

I would like to see the edited entries of Ellen Rimbauer from April 1 1917. The entries are not on the College website or on the url that Joyce Reardon put on the site.

Posted by: on November 14, 2004 12:24 PM

This was an awesome book! It's a new favorite of mine. But knowing it's a work of fiction doesn't ruin the suspense for me..since I found out it was fiction after I started to read it. The same thing happened to me w/ the Blair Witch Poject....it's one of those things that you have to trick yourself into beleiving.
I'm also into real ghost stories..I'm currently reading a book on ghosts around America...its great! I read the Whinchester story in that book. It's funny...I could have figured out that Rose Red was fake w/out looking on the net..since it made some comparasons to the Winchester Mansion..since the house had constant construction.

People on here shouldn't be bashing those who found the story to be real....just let it be..it's more fun that way!

Posted by: Jessica on November 26, 2004 06:19 PM

I can't believe, I was duped!!!! The book I have yet to read, but I did see the movie after I lent the book to my niece. We watched the movie, which scared the crap out of me, only to be on the web the same night I'm watching it, to find out, its all a hoax......................FABULOUS, SIMPLE FABULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Yolie on November 30, 2004 12:15 AM

I didn't see Rose Red when it aired, but rented the DVD later. One of the special features was a show from ABC (or whichever one it was), so I thought it was true. It's been a long time since I watched it, but I was bored and thought about it. I looked some stuff out and found out it was all fake. I had actually heard of the Winchester Mansion before I saw the mini-series, but didn't make the connection. I wouldn't have initially believed it to be true because of the show about it. Now I will certainly NEVER believe anything from TV again.

Posted by: never going to trust anything again on December 1, 2004 12:06 AM

What? Rose Red isnt REAL?
THIS IS SHOCKING!!!!

Sincerely,
Easily Duped

Posted by: Easily Duped on December 17, 2004 07:28 PM

Just found out that Pearson (a guy)did write the Diary of Ellen Rimbauer an it is not at all a true story !!! I must admit that I never did believe it was a true story being a Christian and a firm believer in the supreme power of God but I later became convinced it really did happen. The book was very interesting and I could not put it down everytime I was doing something else besides reading it, I was thinking about reading it. it is a great book I must admit. it is a shame its not true though and I am quite upset someone would make that up even though I enjoyed reading it.
To those of u looking for the diary excerpt on April 1 1917, it does not exist, the author claims it to be an april fool's joke! Not very funny I might add.

Posted by: Tj Haastrup on December 30, 2004 08:08 AM

I see by all the other dates that I am a late bloomer as far as reading the book, and I also am extremely late in seeing the movie( haven't seen it yet) But it was a good read and i also searched for the missing entries like many others( u know perverts of a feather...) but oh well what I found was ok, but not the all sought after entry of April 1st. For everyone who thinks all this is real that's fine and for all those who think it's fake that's fine too. To each his or her own. And Mr. King I tip my hat to you and say well done and all that rot!!!

Posted by: Shelly on January 19, 2005 09:12 PM

Rose Red! True or False?

A short story that most of you beleivers should first here about my organisation. GS started up in June of 2002, established ourselves on the web in September of 2003, since then we have investigated over 500 haunted sites and spooky stories.

Now back to rose red. Ellen Rimbauer may not be real, Michelle Richards was real. Now, Rose Red may not be real...........................in Seattle but, in Canton, Texas in the early 1900's a house was erected on what was thought to be indian barrial grounds, and as for Michelle also known as Red for her beautiful red hair, decided to name this home Rose Red because of it's beauty. Within 20 years at Rose Red numerous accidents and disappearances took place in this home, but unlike the Ellen Rimbauer story, When Michelles daughter Isabell came up missing in the house Michelle order the house to be destroyed. In the walls of the home once desroyed the remains were found as for Michelle, she was executed for multiple charges of murder. In the 1940' the Rose Red property became the House of Lords. With such an establishment, along with the maids of waiting, the gambling and drinking there was also murder and in its five years there was lots of it. This site since the mid 1950's is now an apartment complex. As for that being said. The area is haunted and has been for many years but if I release any other information the owner of the site has threatened to sue me. So if you are really interested in the real rose red than you are searching for the wrong place. It is no longer standing.

if you would like to contact me on this post or anyother related topics my email is pdamvx@mchsi.com. feel free to drop us line

GS Paranormal Research Labs

Posted by: GS Paranormal Research Labs on March 7, 2005 03:11 AM

Hey everyone. I found this site tonight. I live in Miramichi NB. Just wanted to say to the one person criticizing everyone for their spelling mistakes she better learn how to spell. Obviously starts with an o not a a. Looks funny but is correct.

As for the book, I personally loved it. I bought it and have read it over and over again. Does it really matter if it is real or not? The fact is that it is interesting and keeps your attention. I would like to believe that it is real or at least based on a true story. I find all true ghost stories very interesting.

Take care all you believers and don't let anyone ruin your fun.

Posted by: Wendy on March 19, 2005 06:27 PM

The diary exerpts are there. You enter the web address www.beaumontuniversity.net
The home page will come up. On the upper right side there is a list. click on Departments. Then on the page that comes up, click on Paranormal Psychology - Joyce Reardon. On the next page you will see apicture. Above the picture is alist. Choose "Diary Exerpts"
It is a really steamy read.

Posted by: on March 31, 2005 03:13 PM

i have been to DiaryofEllenRimbauer.com . it is very interesting. they have pictures of all these people who have went missing and the dates. also pictures of the Rimbauer family. why would someone go through all the trouble to make this story seem true when it really isn't. i don't know if it is true. i would really, really like to know. but are the pictures real or did someone make them up too, to keep the mystery of this novel going.

Posted by: fran on April 1, 2005 09:41 PM

I FOUND THE MISSING EXERCPTS OF ELLEN'S DIARY. I DON'T KNOW WHO WROTE IT. STEPHEN KING OR RIPLEY PEARSON. BUT WHO EVER WROTE IT NEEDS TO SEE A PYSCOLOGIST FOR HELP. THAT IS VERY PERVERTED.

Posted by: fran on April 1, 2005 10:27 PM

i have skipped through a lot of the posts so apologies if someone mentioned this already but the post of april 1st??? Has it not occcuredto anybody that this is april fools day?? Now the whole book is a fake, pearson having a laugh at our expense, do you not think he is killing himself laughing at his own april fools joke??? Come on. Really.

Posted by: Alison on April 5, 2005 03:29 AM

I am such a loser...I swear I wanted so bad to believe that this was a true story.....it's just too bad it was a spin-off of the sarah winchester story. I will say I read the book in one day and I was captivated from the first entry.....couldnt put it down but never even payed attention that is was in plain english "FICTION"..........oh well it gave me a bug to get freaky with my husband...

Posted by: Rurbyn on April 5, 2005 06:26 PM

i had just finished "the diary of Ellen Rimbauer" and was curious to see if the house, Rose Red, was actually real. To my dissapointment it wasent. Stephan King though, did base the mini series on a real bed and breakfast, it was the scien of the movie "Rose Red". it was a nice book, though it dident hold my attention for verry long (although i did finish the book). if u have any doubts that the book in fact isnt real, please contact me at lilbabybirdy5555@yahoo.com ......my name is allyssa (16)

Posted by: allyssa on April 14, 2005 05:18 PM

I HAVE HAD ALOT OF PEOPLE TELLING ME TO READ THIS BOOK"ROSE RED" IT'S A GREAT TRUE STORY MY FRIENDS WOULD SAY.
COME ON .WHEN YOU GO IN TO A BOOK SHOP IT WILL SAY" TRUE,"THIS IS WERE YOU BUY THE TRUE STORY'S LIKE (A BOY CALLED IT) OR (SICKEND) UNDER FICTION IS WHERE I FOUND ROSE RED!!! AND ON THE BACK OF THE BOOK IT SAYS FICTION, AND YES IT IS A GREAT BOOK ,AND IT GETS LOTS OF PEOPLE TALKING, BUT FICTION IS FICTION

Posted by: on April 15, 2005 09:13 AM

I tried looking for the missing exerpts but cannot find them. There are only exerpts that were already in the book. Do they really exist or not??

Posted by: sd on May 4, 2005 12:47 AM

Thank you for your query. Stephen King’s Rose Red mini-series and the accompanying The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer: My Life At Rose Red are works of fiction, although the script and “diary” incorporate some local historical references to create an illusion of verisimilitude. No Rose Red mansion exists or has ever existed in Seattle. Similarly, Beaumont University, the Rimbauer family, Joyce Reardon, and other associated characters and institutions are imaginary. Some Rose Red scenes were filmed in the Thornewood Castle, an estate located south of Tacoma, Washington, and in other Seattle-area locations. To learn more about the making of Rose Red, visit www.historylink.org and click Rose Red in the HistoryLink Favorites column on the front page. Thank you for visiting HistoryLink, the online encyclopedia of Seattle and King County history.
PS: HistoryLink has no connection with Stephen King, the Rose Red production, or Hyperion Books beyond the unsolicited "beaumontuniversity.net" link to us.

Posted by: on May 4, 2005 01:58 AM

Haha, OMG, Ridley Pearson, Stephen King, I LOVE YOU. You are literary geniuses. I was suspicious, but you had me believing for a while there. Damn, this was and still is hilarious. Pure brilliance. Marketing ploys, documentaries, fake university websites -- I swear, it's almost cruel how you messed with us, but, aw damn, I haven't had the wool pulled over my eyes like that in forever!

Cheers to some exceptional writers! Haha, I love it!

Posted by: Kuraino on May 8, 2005 03:44 PM

Couldn't put this down, thought is was factual, went to the internet today to learn more about Rose Red (wishing I had known about it when I was in Seattle last year) and lo and behold... add me to the long list of dupees. I agree that there is something greater to be said of what these guys have accomplished.. but right now I'm still disappointed and a bit angry at myself. And to those of you who deny that the whole thing is a fake... I have 100 acres of prime lakeside property in Canada in a previously undiscovered area, where there is no snow and the sun shines 325 days a year. For only $100,000, it is yours.

Posted by: DUPED on May 29, 2005 10:57 AM

I always thought Rose Red Exist. That Ellen Rimbauer did as well as her Diary. One day, I wake upa morning and I went on Google to search more about it and Unfortunatlly, people were saying that it was NOT REAL and I found this:
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A few years ago Steven Spielberg asked Stephen King to write a scary, haunted house story he could film. As you guessed, King decided to start with the real story of the Winchester Mansion and elaborate on it. The production company went to great lengths to give the film a "true story" feeling by also publishing a companion book on the subject - "The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer: My Life at Rose Red" by Joyce Reardon (It was actually written by King. Reardon is a character in the film) - and by creating a fake website for "Beaumont University" the college were the investigators checking out the house supposedly came from.

The Winchester House is a real place located in San Jose, California. It was owned by the rich widow of the man that invented the famed Winchester rifle, Sarah L. Winchester. She feared the spirits of those that had been killed by her husband's guns during the Civil War would haunt her. A psychic told her to appease the spirits she should continually build and add to her mansion and that's just what she did for 38 years from 1884 to 1922. The result is a big, rambling structure with lots of strange features including doors that open out into thin air and stairs the go no place but straight up into the ceiling.

All work stopped when Sarah died in 1922, but the mansion still exists and visitors can take a tour of the premises to see some of the 160 strange rooms and odd features that she had built. Supposedly the mansion is haunted.
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What can I say. That was like a heartattack. Have been dreaming for 3years that there is a Rose Red in Seatle and that one day, I will go myself after my studdies of the Paranormal Activities in Canada.
There is still a little voice inside me that wants to believe that there is a Rose Red and I know that I am not the only one, that those who know that it was based on a NON True story still wants it to be true.

"The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer", My Life at Rose Red can always be:
"The Diary of Sarah Winchester", My life at Winchester House.

Stephen King says that he got the idea from the Winchester ( Winchester rifles .....the wife thought if she continued to build the house she would never die).
There are numerous accounts of paranormal activity occurring in the house. These include ghosts, organ music playing, book pages turning and many others.

Stephen King did a great Job. He gave a life to Rose Red, a life to Ellen Rimbauer, a life to something that did not exist. But, the best work he did is of course, Disappointing his readers.

*Sighs*
Ellen Rimbauer became a part of me.
One Rose to Rose Red @-)--

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CrimsonRoseMistress@darkfear.com


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Posted by: Crimsynn on May 30, 2005 02:34 PM

alright people, thornwood castle in washington is not supposed to be rose red, it was just the set for the movie. the real rose red (if it exists) is supposed to be in seattle. i think the movie is retarded, but the diary is great. there really is a family of rimbauers who lived on rose red and there really is a joyce reardon. i dont think the diary is real, but rose red and the rimbaurers are real. even if none of that stuff actually happened, it was still an awesome book.

Posted by: ApRiL on May 30, 2005 11:26 PM

Hello .

Some friends and I are making a Rose Red RPG (Roleplaying game) A play by post. We will be starting from year 1950 after Ellen Rimbauer vanished. The history of Rose Red will be unchanged but new characters will be added.
The story is to be continued...
For more informations or if you are interested to be part of Rose Red, email me us at:

roseredrpgteam@yahoo.com

Posted by: Crimsynn on May 31, 2005 12:06 PM

Fake or Not fake. King did a great job!!!!!

Hey Crimsynn. I would like to join the RPG. What is the storyline?

Posted by: Mark on June 1, 2005 11:00 AM

E-mail us at roseredrpgteam@yahoo.com

Thank you

Posted by: Crimsynn on June 3, 2005 10:05 AM

I LOVE ROSE RED IT WAS GRATE AND I LIKE ANNY THAT GIRL HAS POWER AND ALLEN TACES OVER ANNY AND JOYCE IS HELPING ELLEN TO DO THAT AND STEVEN AND SISTER AND THE OTHERS ARE HELPING ANNY TO GIT RID OF ELLEN OUT OF ANNY MIND I LIKE THAT ONE THAT LOSING HIS FINGERS HI IS RERDE I LIKE ALL THE SICKES AND THIGS I LIKE WHENE ROSE RED GANGES HALLS AND THAT WHEN I HERD THAT THER WAS A NETHERE ONE I WAS ASITEDE TO SEE IT I LIKE THE DIARY OF ELLEN RIMBAUER IT TELLS ARTHIG WHAT HAPPEND AND HOW SHE GOT THE POWER AND MEEN AND THAT . FOME AMANDA AGE 13

Posted by: amanda on June 3, 2005 11:22 PM

I love the book. It was very interesting.

Posted by: serafrancis on June 6, 2005 05:28 PM

About the storyline. Mail me then I will send you the whole storyline Mark.

Posted by: Crimsynn on June 7, 2005 11:23 AM

i love rose red i have dreams about it

Posted by: naomi on June 13, 2005 10:36 AM

For those of you paying attention, did you realize that the "picture" they use for John Rimbauer on the Beaumont site is actually from a photo of Tsar Nicholas II of Russia (1868-1918) as a young man? Made me laugh.

I liked the book, have had it for a long time now. I find it interesting that there are no forums, no spinoffs, nothing. This has a bit of potential in that way, don't you think?

RC

Posted by: resident cynic on June 15, 2005 11:25 PM

i cant find the entry for april 1 1917

i looked all over even at the missing one cant find it anywhere please list it here i will check it every so often please all my friends want to know and no we are not perverts it just seems like something is missing

Posted by: stumped on June 30, 2005 03:03 PM

I am only a girl teen and i have seen and read The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer and both Rose Red. I am very interested in this subjest the first time I am in anything. If you would like to fimd the missing entrys try this site www.beaumonuniversity.net it has most of the missing entrys.

Posted by: Erica on July 1, 2005 01:20 PM

so is it a true story or what? I really want to find out....

Posted by: Jennifer on July 5, 2005 03:14 AM

Ladies and Gentlemen, the movie may not be real but the manor and another phenomenom is real. I have been to the actual Rose Red Manor and I have discovered a true haunting.

We have discovered the phenomenon and have sent many researchers and they have found that there is something to the mystery. You may or not believe but we will bring you the true pictures of a true haunting of Rose Red Manor and this may shock the world.

Posted by: phantom on July 13, 2005 08:31 PM

JUST FINISHED THE BOOK, AND IT WAS GREAT! HAD ME GOING AND EVEN MADE MY HUSBAND HELP ME LOOK FOR THR MISSING ENTRIES!! I FELT STUPID WHEN I FOUND THIS SITE AND STARTED READING THE ENTRIES. A TRUE BELIEVER, UNTIL I TURNED THE BOOK OVER AND FOUND IT REALLY WAS FICTION. DAMN!!!!

Posted by: LISA on July 14, 2005 11:11 PM

Hello everybody! I'm a hungarian girl. Rosered is a very interesting building. I would like to some pictures, but I didn't found. Can you sent some pictures for me? I would like to old pictures... thanks. :-)

Posted by: Adrienn on July 19, 2005 02:34 PM

criel1987@freemail.hu this is my email...

Posted by: Adrienn on July 19, 2005 02:36 PM

I cant get over this chilling enchanting book I am in all with it....
I dont understand why some people on tis site are saying that it isnt real ...when it has come from the diary its self and why would a college be so to hold its records if not having sometruth to it....
Besides I wouldnt want to challeng the house that it is not real wouldnt want RoseRed mad at me....
I live in a 100 year old plus house and belive me experience that and any thing is possible.
Thank you
Lisa

Posted by: Lisa on July 22, 2005 01:48 PM

We can argue till the cows come home, but everyone will believe what they want.
But the fact still remains, there are things that we can't explain in this world. I for ine would love to seek out the truth .

Posted by: melissa on July 25, 2005 07:23 PM

I am in the middle of reading "The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer" and I really don't know what to believe. If it's a fictional story, then why go through all the trouble of putting an afterword in by a relative and making a site with omitted excerpts? I personally believe that the house is real and the diary is real, but the movies may be a little on the made up side. I will continue to do some research and find out more on this.

Posted by: Tamara on July 28, 2005 02:23 PM

ok this might sound stupid but i know there is a "diary" and i've seen the movie and ahndful of times but is the movie itself a book??? like can u read the movie??? or just the "prequel" diary thing???

if n e one could lemme know id like to find out b4 i turn 17....
cd1989@hotmail.com subject rose red
Thanks a lot

Posted by: cath on August 1, 2005 11:22 PM

All I would like to say is that the beaumont university site is completely fake, when you click on the department page of the site and then click on an other department than Joyce Reardon's you will find that they are all the same pages.Besides even if they are small the back of the diary says it's fiction.

Posted by: Monco on August 7, 2005 12:10 PM

its not fiction but its only half real in the sense of being symbolic, i should know, its my site.

Posted by: gail on August 25, 2005 01:25 AM

ok..that didnt make a lot of sense..sory, i havnt even heard of the book..who wants to fill me in? iv been in this world for 6 months.
gail
realangel
25th august 2005

Posted by: gail on August 25, 2005 01:29 AM

has rosered got anything to do with the roosevelt hotel..the haunted one, currently under construction?

Posted by: gail on August 25, 2005 01:31 AM

hi i think this is a good book and also a great movie i own it the movioe of rose red and i would love to have the diary one too \

Posted by: brenda on August 29, 2005 09:40 PM

I am doing a report on Rose Red and to be honest I had no idea about its backround except that I have seen the movie. I was going to write it on the story in the movie but maybe i'll write on how the story affects people and their beliefs.

Thank you to all who have contributed to my new found knowledge!

Posted by: ???bb on September 5, 2005 05:13 PM

I saw the Diary of Ellen Rimbauer at a bookstore just yesterday and without hesitation immediately bought it. I'm almost done with it. Whether the story is true or not, i cannot put it down! You guys are right, the book/story really is fascinating!

Posted by: Gila on September 12, 2005 06:35 AM

I want to beleive in this book, however i cant find the missingpages promised in the book and have seen the FICTION sign on the back of the book.... HMMMM

Posted by: Amanda on September 14, 2005 05:06 AM

Why does it matter to so many that others believe this book to be true or not ? I think the power found in the pages of this diary aren't a choice of fact or fiction I believe it to be a thing only some feel and some don't . Isn't that what "the other side" is all about ? The reality for those who feel it and the disbelief of those who don't . Fact or fiction , the "diary" has made me think on many things I may at one time have not thought on . So, fact or fiction I am glad I took the time to read this book .

Posted by: Babydoll on September 16, 2005 09:30 PM

I would like to say bravo to babydoll..all these ppl bashing this book in my opinion are just non-believers in the supernatural things that happen in every day life. Just because you have never experienced things of this nature doesn't mean they aren't happening. Has it crossed anyone's mind that the reason that "Rose Red" and "The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer" were created was to spike the readers interest in the supernatural? As for the book itself and the movie, I was unable to put the book down and have watched the movie plenty of times. Whether it is real or not, it has definitely caught the attention of the publics eye and gave those of us who do believe something to think about.

Posted by: foxygirl05 on September 19, 2005 01:04 PM

Ok on the back of the book it says fiction. The book might be fiction, but i believe that there really is a Rose Red and the story is true. Maybe they just didn't find a real diary. I think the the University and Joyce Reardon or real.

Posted by: beth on October 30, 2005 11:09 AM

okay...i have read and watched the diary or ellen rimbauer and own both. i have also seen rose red and own it too. so is it all real or what? was there really a house. i mean i understand that there were alot of people who disappered in the house itself...but is the house still standing? i read the book and it said that joyce reardon was going to do a experiment where they would go into the house...but i know that was years ago also..so now that its 2005, almost 06 is it (the house) still there or is it gone? if it is gone what happened to the lot of the house? if someone could answer all or any of those questions i would greatly appriciate it..thanx,abby

Posted by: abby on November 21, 2005 01:12 AM

Well, I am confused for sure. I bought the book on a sale table because it looked so intriguing; never saw or heard of the movie. But as I was reading thought that this simply cannot be true. I find this sight and think we are all confused!!!! It has to be fiction. Doesn't it?

Posted by: Deb on November 27, 2005 09:46 PM

Rose Red IS fake. Stephen King and Steven Spielberg made it up based on the story of the "Winchster Mystery House".
You can find proof that Stephen and Steven LOL have confessed to it at...... http://www.prairieghosts.com/rosered.html

Posted by: on December 16, 2005 05:23 PM

Ok, I know its a hoax, and i kinda knew most of the time i was reading, it's just more fun to believe it's real. But seriously..when ellen makes three references in one paragraph to Stephen King's books? come on ppl, how can anyone still think its real? I'm too lazy so I'm copying this from a website...

At one point Ellen writes "no young girl who can set schools afire, no dog that behaves as if possessed" which is clearly a reference to King's books Carrie and Cujo. At one point she also describes the postman like this "well over six feet tall, a bum right leg that caused him to limp and the thickest of glasses!" she also write that he said something like "Pisa for Rimbauers". This is a description of King and in the miniseries he is playing a pizza delivery (Pisa for the Rimbauers) that is delivering pizzas to the house. This was great to read I love this kind of things!
from :http://www.liljas-library.com/reviewellendiary.html

Posted by: Amariah on December 29, 2005 02:28 PM

im totally fine with knowing that the diary entries are fake, but i urge people to research the Winchester Mansion and the similarities.
I found this site after reading "ellen's" references to Fire Starter/Carrie, and Cujo (i thought that was lame of Pearson to add these, i mean, talk about jolting me out of the mystery)

Im loving the book so far(i saw the movie a few years ago and thought it was good, but now i see that it pales in comparison to the book) and not to be too perverted, but i was upset that after april 1st all the exploits of the 3 charachters were completly left out. i think it would have been helpful to the story and showing Johns increasing madness and desperation, and a bit of intersting reading.
Also about the supposed missing entries on the baumont univ. site, they dont seem to fit chronologically with the story for me(anyone else agree?) By Dec 1919 ellen had already found the secret passage that lead to her room and then says in the missing entry "i fear he betrayed me...with and act of voyerism. How this could be possible, i know not."
Anyway, i hope everyone enjoyed the book as much as i did, and try not to focus on the fact that though based on some facts, it is fiction .

Posted by: Michele on February 4, 2006 04:53 PM

i do believe in the afterlife. but stephen king goes to differnt places and get inspired to write. if there is such a women named ellen rimbauer it's someone he knows and started to write about her and a fiction novel. how do you think he makes is living. he gets people to buy is book or go pay money at the movies. he is very creative in is mind and his work thank you for letting me post.

Posted by: diane on March 1, 2006 03:22 PM

Why did the diary make it sound like John or Daniel the stable man Killed Laura the house maid. Was it the house or the men that killed her. Did the men have there way with her then the house killed her.

Posted by: on April 2, 2006 11:27 PM

I find it comical that people still believe that the diary/movie are 100% true. For those of you calling yourself "believers", this isn't about beliefs - this is fact and fiction. And, fact is, the book and movie are both FICTION. They may be symbolic, may be LOOSELY based on events that were POSSIBLY true, but the diary, second diary, movie, Rose Red itself, Ellen Rimbauer, John Rimbauer, Steven Rimbauer, and Joyce Rheardon are all FICTIONAL. That means "made up". As in, "not real".
If you claim to believe something, that's because there's no proof one way or the other - for example, a belief in God, the afterlife, the spiritual world, etc. I am not here to disprove, or prove, for that matter, things that cannot be proven, so don't misconstrue this post as me expressing my beliefs on these subjects. HOWEVER: you can't say you believe in Rose Red being real, because it has ALREADY been disproven. Read the above posts. Read the back of the books. There can be no beliefs about the reality of Rose Red, because it has already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be fiction. It's like saying you believe that the show "Lost" is actually happening on an island somewhere (sorry to break anyone's bubble).
So please, stop making pointless arguments. It makes me frustrated.

Posted by: gandalfmerlinherman on April 7, 2006 07:12 PM

well i thought the book and the movie were truly amazing... i loved them both.

Posted by: blah on April 20, 2006 11:44 AM

go to the beaumont website and try to do anything else. Everything but the "home," "departments" and "Contact" links work; everything else is under construction. So go to the departments, click on any one of them and you are taken to "Rose Red home." Rose Red is all that web site is.

Posted by: Aaron on June 8, 2006 03:26 AM

i agree that rose red is a house that the winchester own. and all the characters are fake. the movie was a great hit and it made everyone wondering if there is a such a house.and if there such a person sorry not true. if you want to know about a house that haunted please look up www.haunted places .com and you can see for your self thank-you.

Posted by: diane on July 26, 2006 08:52 PM




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